Talking Law with Hogan Lovells Cadwalader brings you legal perspectives from the intersection of business, finance, and government.
Hear from our lawyers and guests as they explore market developments, regulatory shifts, disputes, and transactions - and what they mean for how organizations operate and make decisions.
Episodes
Nov 23, 2021
Nov 23, 2021
24 min
In this Series 5 finale, Andrew speaks to CDC Group’s Chief Executive Officer, Nick O’Donohoe. Previously a Senior Adviser to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Nick co-founded and served as CEO of Big Society Capital. Established in 1948, CDC Group is the UK’s development finance institution with a portfolio of around £5 billion, making it the world’s first impact investor supporting businesses in Africa and South Asia.
Listen as they discuss who CDC are, what they do, and what role they can play in delivering results from an impact point of view. They explore what aspects of COVID-19 have been the most challenging in the DFI/Multilateral space; and what organisations like CDC can do to promote AfCFTA and the African Union’s call for a new paradigm. Nick talks about his views on what a ‘Just Transition’ means within an African context, and how he thinks CDC can support this. He also shares more about the group's green agenda in light of COP26 and the upcoming COP27, which is set to be held on the continent.
Join these two industry stalwarts for a candid and insightful conversation; our last A Perspective Podcast for 2021.
Nov 16, 2021
Nov 16, 2021
20 min
Our global CaSL group has extensive experience in all kinds of corporate and securities litigation. Our European, Asian and U.S. practices are trusted advisors in their markets. We have created a two-part podcast series to give a global overview on the current business climate on joint ventures, what characteristics successful joint ventures have and also which legal steps need to be considered in case the joint venture needs to be terminated. In this podcast series, our global Corporate and Securities Litigation team will give you some practical tips and guidance.
In today’s episode, we will discuss the different phases of joint ventures and also where things can go wrong. Our Hogan Lovells partners Olaf Gaertner and Jon Talotta, who together are leading the global CaSL group, will discuss the pitfalls they’ve witnessed that can potentially lead to problems later down the road. In addition, they will discuss the current business climate for Joint Ventures and reasons for which companies all over the world are considering JVs as a way to generate more business.
Nov 15, 2021
Nov 15, 2021
12 min
Learn about responsible investment policies with Sukhvir Basran (London) and Amy Cleaves (London).
Nov 15, 2021
Nov 15, 2021
9 min
Explore impact measurement with Marion Palmer (London) and Scot Anderson (Denver).
Oct 27, 2021
Oct 27, 2021
18 min
Tobias Faber (Partner, Frankfurt) and Alex Harrison (Partner, London) kick off our ESG Academy podcast series with a deep dive into energy transition.
Oct 14, 2021
Oct 14, 2021
28 min
In this episode, Andrew speaks to Giles Peppiatt, Director of Modern & Contemporary African Art at Bonhams in London. Giles established The South African Sale in 2007; a field in which Bonhams now leads the market, and one which has established London as the centre for the South African Art market.
Listen as they discuss Giles’ passion for African Art, what led him to develop this market in the UK and what changes he has seen in this space over the past decade and a half. Giles shares his views on both the barriers and opportunities for the growth of the market globally, and the importance of partnerships with African bidders, collectors, curators and, stakeholders in the region in overcoming barriers and leveraging opportunities. In this engaging and collegial conversation, the two also share their experiences of the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, not only the market aspects of contemporary African art but how the art itself has meaningful relevance in times of crisis.

Oct 11, 2021
Oct 11, 2021
40 min
Join Hilary, Hogan Lovells partner and the first Native American to serve as U.S. Department of Interior Solicitor, as she discusses hot topics impacting Environmental and Social Governance (ESG) issues across the U.S.
Hilary discusses climate change, corporate ESG trends, and global dynamics with Bob Perciasepe, Senior Adviser to the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions (C2ES) and former EPA Deputy Administrator.
Oct 7, 2021
Oct 7, 2021
30 min
In this episode, Andrew speaks to the founder, former Dean, and current Professor at the Gordon Institute of Business Science (GIBS), Professor Nick Binedell. After an initial career in the Mining and Manufacturing sectors, Nick has focused his work, for the past 20+ years, in the area of business education. GIBS has a strong focus on partnering with leading South African corporates and providing a high level of local and international business education.
Join them as they delve into his passion for business education, how the organisations he’s involved in are working towards addressing challenges faced by the education sector in Africa, and the changes to the education landscape in South Africa following COVID-19. Nick also shares his views on the role of the government and the public sector in facilitating business and delivering value moving forward, as well as a positive outlook for South Africa moving forward and the sectors he sees as most promising in the short and long term.

Oct 1, 2021
Oct 1, 2021
22 min
Join Hilary, Hogan Lovells partner and the first Native American to serve as U.S. Department of Interior Solicitor, as she discusses hot topics impacting Environmental and Social Governance (ESG) issues across the U.S.
Hilary discusses Native American voting rights and impacts with Jacqueline De Leon, an attorney with the Native American Rights Fund (NARF).

Sep 28, 2021
Sep 28, 2021
26 min
Nick Olsen spent years developing ResMan, a game-changing property management software and company. The future looked bright; until he discovered one of the company’s own clients trying to steal that software—his life’s work. Determined to fight back, ResMan teamed up with a team of tenacious trial lawyers from international law firm Hogan Lovells to take that client and their co-conspirator to court in a high-stakes case that played out during the COVID-19 pandemic and led to a jury verdict that surprised everyone. This is the story of ResMan v. Karya and Expedien.
Sep 16, 2021
Sep 16, 2021
34 min
In this episode, Andrew turns to Zeinab Badawi. Zeinab has worked extensively in the media for four decades. She is best known for her work at BBC World News TV and on BBC World Service Radio, on programmes such as Hard Talk and Global Questions. She recently produced and presented an acclaimed 20-part TV series on the history of Africa, reporting from over 30 countries across the continent.
Join them as they discuss her monumental series on African History with the BBC and the importance and relevance of challenging preconceptions and understanding the history and diversity of the continent and its diaspora in a modern context. They consider climate and natural resources as driving wealth, wealth, trade empires, and migration within as part of this history and what this means for Africa's future within the context of a ‘just transition’ from carbon. Zeinab also shares her view on the main barriers impeding education equity for women and girls in Africa, as well what she sees as the barriers to progress on the continent as a whole.
Sep 9, 2021

Aug 5, 2021
Aug 5, 2021
22 min
Ivan Zapien, partner and GRPA practice leader, chats with Mark Irion, head of Strategic Communications, about the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the challenges ahead.
Jun 9, 2021
Jun 9, 2021
24 min
In this episode, Andrew turns to Geetha Tharmaratnam, CEO of Aequalitas Capital Partners and leader of their Impact Investment practice. Geetha is an investment executive with more than 19 years of experience in Private Equity, venture capital, development finance, impact investing, and insurance in Africa, Asia, Latin America, and Europe. She has had a focus on Small and Medium Enterprises (SMEs), gender lens-investing, healthcare, and financial services. As senior investment advisor to the UN Economic Commission for Africa, she has also developed a fund of funds to invest in female African Investors.
Join them as they discuss what “impact” funding means. what responsibilities it brings to fund managers, and why is it the right approach for investors in Africa. They also confer about the role of international investment and in particular the role of the international community, whether through government, DFI’s and multilaterals as well as the need to create a more diverse environment in business on the continent and how the ECA African Women Investors Training Programme, launched in May 2021, is a significant step in the right direction. Geetha animates this insightful conversation and uses her love for numbers to give us a look into the steps that need to be taken to support and promote SMEs, the key factors which will drive investment in the next year, and the sectors she sees as most likely to thrive.

Jun 3, 2021
Jun 3, 2021
16 min
In today's episode, we'll visit with Hogan Lovells partners Courtney Devon Taylor and Christopher Pickens, from our Philadelphia and Northern Virginia offices respectively, as they discuss core M&A and corporate governance doctrines and their impact on the future.

May 25, 2021
May 25, 2021
14 min
In today's episode, we'll visit with Hogan Lovells partner Ann Kim and counsel Scott Haiber, from our Los Angeles and Baltimore offices respectively, as they discuss federal forum provisions - and the continued viability of these provisions in company charters.
May 21, 2021
May 21, 2021
30 min
In this episode, Andrew speaks to the Chief Executive Officer of the African Private Equity and Venture Capital Association (AVCA), Abi Mustapha-Maduakor. Abi has several years of strategic leadership, financial and investment management, and operational management experience. She has held leadership roles in AVCA as Chief Operating Officer and as the Special Adviser to the Minister of Industry, Trade, and Investment in Nigeria, where she focused on programs and policies to spur private sector investment and SME growth.
Join them as they discuss AVCA, their mandate to promote investment into Africa, how they’re adding value to the sector, and what their focus has been during the COVID-19 pandemic. The two also delve into the key themes that are most relevant to the continent, post-pandemic and the sectors that AVCA members are most excited by, and why. Abi also shares her view on what the unique selling points are for Africa as an investment destination, how she and AVCA members see the AfCFTA as being a relevant factor in investment now and in the future, as well as her outlook on SMEs and the potential capacity for investment by and in SMEs on the continent.

May 17, 2021
May 17, 2021
13 min
In today's episode, we'll visit with Hogan Lovells partner Ryan Philp and senior associate Allison Wuertz, both from our New York office, as they discuss litigation developments in fundamental shareholder rights.
Apr 29, 2021
Apr 29, 2021
21 min
In this episode, Andrew turns to Jacko Maree. Jacko is non-executive the Deputy Chairman at Standard Bank Group and serves as Chairman of the Liberty Group. Having been CEO of Africa’s largest bank, Standard Bank, for 13 years, including building their pan African business across 20 countries and securing a 20% investment in the bank by Chinese investors; he is a renowned and experienced leader in South Africa. Crucially he is also currently supporting South Africa’s push for investment as one of President Ramaphosa’s investment envoys.
Listen as they discuss a wide range of topics at the centre of South African economic trajectory including the challenging targets set for delivering investment into the country, the roadblocks to delivering these targets and how COVID-19 has impacted the market. Jacko also shares his thoughts about the development of South Africa’s trade relationships, how well the nation is working together to deliver success and his six reasons to be cheerful about the country’s future.

Apr 7, 2021
Apr 7, 2021
12 min
One of the most fascinating elements of the rewilding approaches used in Selkie is the combination of state-of-the-art science and high-tech measurement instruments on the one hand, and on the other, traditional wisdom, ways of observing and interacting with nature. By combining the best of the past with the best of the future, nature gets the ideal support to grow back into a stable ecosystem able to take care of itself.
Project Lead: Mareike van Oosting
Creative Directors: Julian Wildgruber & Kathrin Höckel
Editors: Kathrin Höckel & Julian Wildgruber
Senior Texter: Kathrin Höckel
Field Recording Artist: Julian Wildgruber
Photography & Art Director: Julian Wildgruber
Musik & Sound Design: Oliver Deuerling
Narrator: Mareike van Oosting

Apr 7, 2021
Apr 7, 2021
10 min
In the village of Selkie in Eastern Finland, industrial peat extraction had greatly degraded the landscape, poisoning lakes and rivers and endangering the aquatic life there. But thanks to the efforts of the Snowchange Cooperative with financial support from Hogan Lovells, a stunning nature recovery has taken place in only a few years. After years of decline, birds are coming back to nest and visit this key migratory site, biodiversity has been restored and the soil is shifting slowly from the release of heavy carbon dioxide emissions to effective carbon absorption. A blessing for the locals who can continue their traditional ways of life with nature and a model for all of Europe.
Project Lead: Mareike van Oosting
Creative Directors: Julian Wildgruber & Kathrin Höckel
Editors: Kathrin Höckel & Julian Wildgruber
Senior Texter: Kathrin Höckel
Field Recording Artist: Julian Wildgruber
Photography & Art Director: Julian Wildgruber
Musik & Sound Design: Oliver Deuerling
Narrator: Mareike van Oosting

Apr 7, 2021
Apr 7, 2021
8 min
The concept of rewilding has a proven track record of success and is now rapidly growing in Europe. Rewilding Europe is the organisation which effectively spreads this idea across the continent. At the core of their work is a new attitude of trusting nature to take care of itself rather than controlling and confining it. Results from the scientific programmes accompanying their work show that this is not only an extremely effective way of increasing biodiversity and combatting climate change, but it is also the most cost effective one. It is the future of nature conservation – by using natural solutions to tackle global challenges.
Project Lead: Mareike van Oosting
Creative Directors: Julian Wildgruber & Kathrin Höckel
Editors: Kathrin Höckel & Julian Wildgruber
Senior Texter: Kathrin Höckel
Field Recording Artist: Julian Wildgruber
Photography & Art Director: Julian Wildgruber
Musik & Sound Design: Oliver Deuerling
Narrator: Mareike van Oosting
